{"id":53,"date":"2007-11-13T19:16:12","date_gmt":"2007-11-14T00:16:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.onepeople-oneworld.org\/WordPress\/?p=53"},"modified":"2007-11-13T19:16:12","modified_gmt":"2007-11-14T00:16:12","slug":"hitler-went-to-heaven","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.onepeople-oneworld.org\/WordPress\/2007\/11\/13\/hitler-went-to-heaven\/","title":{"rendered":"Hitler went to Heaven?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>How do you suppose he managed that?  Well, I, or rather God, through Neale Donald Walsch, am going to tell you.  Trust me this leads to the path I choose to walk, it is a bit of a digression, at least from the treatment this question gets in CWG, Book 1, but, it is expanded here in a way that I understand, that resonates as truth within me, a larger truth, I guess I mean.  Your mileage may vary, :^).  And fair warning, the mileage tonight is substantial.  But the trip is worth its weight in love.<\/p>\n<p>Our story tonight begins on page 53 of Book 2, with God having responded in a rather roundabout way to a question Neale posed earlier, one we&#8217;ll come back to, probably tomorrow, about the &#8220;group&#8221; or &#8220;collective&#8221; consciousness, the undercurrent of thought, in a way of ALL of us together, sort of the consciousness that creates the atmosphere globally.  You&#8217;ve all heard, or most of you, it said that Jesus said that anything is possible where two or more are gathered in His name.  This idea, the collective consciousness, or UNconsciousness, is that amplified by the 6 billion minds presently incarnated on this planet.  It considers what might happen if all of them turned toward one idea, what the power of those minds might create &#8211; intentionally or not.  That is a most interesting conversation and we will have it later, but this night this is what has my interest, and since I am doing the typing, well, you can see where this is going, giggle.  Neale suggests that God has digressed actually, to which God responds:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Not really.  You asked about Hitler.  The Hitler Experience was made possible as a result of group consciousness.  Many people want to say that Hitler manipulated a group &#8211; in this case, his countrymen &#8211; through the cunning and mastery of his rhetoric.  But this conveniently lays all the blame at Hitler&#8217;s feet &#8211; which is exactly where the mass of the people want it.<br \/>\nBut Hitler could do nothing without the the cooperation and support and willing submission of millions of people.  The subgroup which called itself Germans must assume an enormous burden for the Holocaust.  As must, to some degree, the larger group called Humans, which, if it did nothing else, allowed itself to remain indifferent and apathetic to the suffering in Germany until it reached so massive a scale that even the most cold-hearted isolationists could not longer ignore it.  <strong><small>(gene inserts parenthetically, there is a novel, A Princess in Berlin, by a man named Arthur Solmssen, which creates such a picture of post WWI in Germany, that one can understand how conditions came to be so ripe for the National Socialist movement of Adolf Hitler &#8211; not justifyingly so at all, but how harshly were the Germans punished by the world that social conditions deteriorated to the point where ANYONE who could point to a way out of the pit was able to gain an audience &#8211; the story itself is a heart-wrenching star-crossed love story, but its main value is the stark picture it paints of how Hitler came to power legitimately &#8211; for the most detailed version of the conditions leading toward WWII, I can&#8217;t recommend strongly enough two novels of Herman Wouk, Winds of War and War and Remembrance, read them, you will never be the same again, you WILL understand that period in more detail than any history course or text could possibly provide)<\/small><\/strong><br \/>\nYou see, it was <em>collective consciousness<\/em> which provided fertile soil for the growth of the Nazi movement.  Hitler seized the moment, but he did not create it.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s important to understand the <strong><em>lesson<\/em><\/strong> here.  A group consciousness which speaks constantly of separation and superiority produces loss of compassion on a massive scale, and loss of compassion is inevitably followed by loss of conscience.<br \/>\nA collective concept rooted in strict nationalism ignores the plights of others, yet makes everyone else responsible for <em>yours<\/em>, thus justifying retaliation, &#8220;rectification&#8221;, and war.<br \/>\nAuschwitz was the Nazi solution to &#8211; an attempt to &#8220;rectify&#8221; &#8211; the &#8220;Jewish Problem&#8221;.<br \/>\nThe horror of the Hitler Experience was not that he perpetrated it on the human race, but that the <em>human race allowed him to.<\/em><br \/>\nThe astonishment is not only that a Hitler came along, but that so many others <em>went<\/em> along.<br \/>\nThe shame is not only that Hitler killed millions of Jews, but also that millions of Jews <em>had<\/em>to be killed before Hitler was stopped.<br \/>\nThe purpose of the Hitler Experience was to show humanity to itself.<br \/>\nThroughout history you have had remarkable teachers, each presenting extraordinary opportunities to remember Who You Really Are.  These teachers have shown you the highest and the lowest of the human potential.  <strong><small>(gene inserts, and the opportunity to choose, each time which we wish to be)<\/small><\/strong><br \/>\nThey have presented vivid, breathtaking examples of what it can mean to be human &#8211; of where one can go with the experience, of where the <em>lot<\/em> of you can and <em>will<\/em> go, <em>given your consciousness.<\/em><br \/>\nThe thing to remember:  Consciousness is everything, and creates your experience.  <em>Group<\/em> consciousness is powerful and produces outcomes of unspeakable beauty or ugliness.  The choice is always yours.<br \/>\nIf you are not satisfied with the consciousness of your group, seek to change it.<br \/>\nThe best way to change the consciousness of others is by your example.<br \/>\nIf your example is not enough, form your own group,  &#8211; <em>you<\/em>be the <em>source<\/em> of the consciousness you wish others to experience.  They <em>will<\/em> &#8211; when you do.<br \/>\nIt begins with <em> you.<\/em>  Everything.  All things.<br \/>\nYou want the world to change.  Change things in your own world.<br \/>\nHitler gave you a golden opportunity to do that.  The Hitler Experience &#8211; like the Christ Experience &#8211; is profound in its implications and the truths it revealed to you <em>about<\/em> you.  Yet those larger awarenesses live &#8211; in the case of Hitler <em>or<\/em> Buddha, Genghis Kahn <em>or<\/em> Hare Krishna, Attila the Hun or Jesus the Christ &#8211; only so long as your memories of them live.<br \/>\nThat is why the Jews build monuments to the Holocaust and ask you never to forget it.  For there is a little bit of Hitler in all of you &#8211; and it is only a matter of degree.  Wiping out a people is wiping out a people, whether at Auschwitz or Wounded Knee.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Neale:  &#8220;So Hitler was sent to us to provide us a lesson about the horrors man can commit, the levels to which man can sink?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>God:  &#8220;Hitler was not sent to you.  Hitler was created <em>by<\/em>you.  He arose out of your Collective Consciousness, and could not have existed without it.  <em>That<\/em> is the lesson.<br \/>\nThe consciousness of separation, segregation, superiority &#8211; of &#8220;we&#8221; versus &#8220;they&#8221;,of &#8220;us&#8221; and &#8220;them&#8221; &#8211; is what creates the Hitler Experience.<br \/>\nThe consciousness of Divine Brotherhood, of unity, of Oneness, of &#8220;ours&#8221; rather than &#8220;yours\/mine&#8221;, is what creates the Christ Experience.<br \/>\nWhen the pain is &#8220;ours&#8221;, not just &#8220;yours&#8221;, when the joy is &#8220;ours&#8221;, not just &#8220;mine&#8221;, when the <em>whole life experience<\/em> is Ours, then it is at last truly that &#8211; a Whole Life Experience.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Neale:  &#8220;Why did Hitler go to heaven?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>God:  Because Hitler did nothing &#8220;wrong.&#8221;  Hitler simply did what he did.  I remind you again that for many years millions thought he was &#8220;right&#8221;.  How, then, could he help but think so?<br \/>\nIf you float out a crazy idea, and ten million people agree with you, you might not think you are so crazy.<br \/>\nThe world decided &#8211; finally &#8211; that Hitler was &#8220;wrong&#8221;.  That is to say, the world&#8217;s people made a new assessment of Who They Are, and Who They Chose to Be, in relationship to the Hitler Experience.<br \/>\nHe held up a yardstick!  He set a parameter, a border against which we could measure and limit our ideas about ourselves.  Christ did the same the thing, at the other end of the spectrum.<br \/>\nThere have been other Christs, and other Hitlers.  And there will be again.  Be ever vigilant then.  For people of both high and low consciousness walk among you, even as <em>you<\/em> walk among others.  Which consciousness do you take with you?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Neale:  &#8220;I still don&#8217;t understand how Hitler could have gone to heaven; how could he have been <em>rewarded<\/em> for what he did?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>God:  &#8220;First understand that death is not an end, but a beginning; not a horror, but a joy.  It is not a closing down, but an opening up.<br \/>\nThe happiest moment of your life will be the moment it ends.<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s because it <em>doesn&#8217;t<\/em> end but only goes on in ways so magnificent, so full of peace and wisdom and joy, as to make it difficult to describe and impossible for you to comprehend.<br \/>\nSo the first thing you have to understand &#8211; as I&#8217;ve already explained to you &#8211; is that Hitler didn&#8217;t <em>hurt<\/em> anyone.  In a sense, he didn&#8217;t <em>inflict suffering<\/em>, he <em>ended<\/em> it.<br \/>\nIt was the Buddha who said &#8220;Life is suffering.&#8221;  The Buddha was right.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Neale:  &#8220;But even if I accept that &#8211; Hitler didn&#8217;t <em>know<\/em> he was actually doing <em>good.<\/em>  He thought he was doing <em>bad!<\/em>&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>God:  &#8220;No, he didn&#8217;t think he was doing something &#8220;bad.&#8221;  He actually thought he was helping his people.  And that&#8217;s what you don&#8217;t understand.<br \/>\nNo one does <em>anything<\/em> that is &#8220;wrong,&#8221; given their model of the universe.  If you think Hitler acted insanely and all the while <em>knew<\/em> that he was insane, then you understand nothing of the complexity of the human experience.<br \/>\nHitler thought he was doing <em>good<\/em> for his people.  And his people thought so, too!  <em>That was the insanity of it!<\/em>  The largest part of the nation <em>agreed with him!<\/em><br \/>\nYou have declared that Hitler was &#8220;wrong.&#8221;  Good.  By this measure you have come to define yourself, know more about yourself.  Good.  But don&#8217;t condemn Hitler for <em>showing you that.<br \/>\nSomeone<\/em> had to.<br \/>\nYou cannot know cold unless there is hot, up unless there is down, left unless there is right.  Do not condemn the one and bless the other.  To do so is to fail to understand.<br \/>\nFor centuries people have been condemning Adam and Eve.  They are said to have committed Original Sin.  I tell you this:  It was the Original Blessing.  For without this event, the partaking of the knowledge of good and evil, <em>you<\/em> would not even know the two possibilities existed!  Indeed, before the so-called Fall of Adam, these two possibilities <em>did not <\/em> exist.  There was no &#8220;evil&#8221;.  Everyone and everything existed in a state of constant perfection.  It was, literally, paradise.  Yet you didn&#8217;t <em>know<\/em> it was paradise &#8211; could not <em>experience<\/em> it as perfection &#8211; because you <em>knew nothing else.<\/em><br \/>\nShall you then condemn Adam and Eve, or thank them?<br \/>\nAnd what, say you, shall I do with Hitler?<br \/>\nI tell you this:  God&#8217;s love and God&#8217;s compassion, God&#8217;s wisdom and God&#8217;s forgiveness, God&#8217;s intention and God&#8217;s <em>purpose<\/em>, are large enough to include the most heinous crime and the most heinous criminal.<br \/>\nYou may not agree with this, but it does not matter.<br \/>\nYou have just learned what you came here to discover.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Okayyyyy.   Well, hmmm.  There is a bit there to think about, isn&#8217;t there?  And I think that is what I&#8217;ll leave you to do.  In a moment, giggle.  I have been thinking about this for a very long time.  Since Book 1 came into my hands two weeks to the day after my youngest son&#8217;s suicide at age 21.  It took ME some time to come terms with a lot of what is in these books, but I tell you the first comforting thought, feeling, I had while reading book 1, was this part about Hitler going to heaven, because there is NO other place to go.  It lifted from my mind and heart the fear I felt for my son.  Completely.  And that fear has never returned.  That it was the happiest day of his life?  As God says above, well, I hope so.  It wasn&#8217;t so for anyone remaining here.  But when God says that it IS the happiest day, when He talks about the state of constant perfection, well, I KNOW that place, it was what I glimpsed in the presence of the white and golden globes.  THAT is the garden of Eden, Adam and Eve (figuratively our forebears) did not &#8220;fall&#8221;, they descended, as do we all, from &#8220;home&#8221;, that place where love is all there is, to this place, the realm of the relative experience.  I KNOW how wonderful that place, our true home is, because I saw it, I felt it, I experienced it but for moments.  But I would not have understood it AS such for a second, had I NOT the experience of this life I have, am, living.<\/p>\n<p>It goes beyond Hitler, beyond Jesus, this knowing.  We don&#8217;t all have Hitler or Christ experiences.  Most of us operate on a smaller scale, but we all understand suffering.  We all understand poverty.  We all understand abuse.  We all understand EVERYTHING God talked about above, separation, segregation, yours, mine, ours.  What we do with those understandings, how we use them as we grow through our lives is all that matters in the end, and then, only to each of us as we have this individual experience, having forgotten the truth of us, come here veiled from the real truth of us, that in the end, we are all One.  I think that is the purpose of being here, in as many lifetimes as we choose to come, to forget and re-member again.  I think each remembrance may be sweeter than the one before for many of us, else we would not do this more than once.  Some of us, me, will do this only once.  That is what my Jenna tells me, giggle.  I have packed a lot of experience into this lifetime, I will admit to that.  But the reason this website exists, is to tell each of you who come across it, that what Neale Donald Walsch, and God, have written in these marvelous books about &#8220;home&#8221; is truth.  I have seen it.  I have felt it.  And I know it as surely as anything I have ever known in any part of my life.  Those experiences are as real as any I had this day, or any day of my life, and they are truth.  Fear of death is not something we need carry.  I grant the experience of it may not be as we might all like but there is nothing wasted in any such experience, not for any of us, and I do believe that in the moment we step again behind the curtain into that state of absolute love and joy IS the happiest day of our lives.  I&#8217;m sure of it.  I SAW it and I FELT it and I KNOW it.  So, as Sarah sings, perhaps my only purpose here is as a witness, Make me a Witness, take me out, out of darkness, out of doubt.  If I can do that for even one of you.  I can feel my day is done.  This day.  much love, :^) gene<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: midnightblue; font-weight: normal\"><em> If today brings even one choice your way<br \/>\nchoose to be a bringer of the light :^) gene<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>How do you suppose he managed that? 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